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February 20th, 2003


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Network Marketing Coach - How Do You Get Coaching in Network Marketing?

Network marketing is a gigantic industry, and there are many so-called “coaches” and “experts” that claim to be able to show network marketers how to succeed with their businesses. With all the options available, how do you go about sorting and choosing the best network marketing coach for you and your business? Let’s take a look at some of the key factors to evaluate.

First, you obviously want a coach that has experience and a history of building successful organizations. When speaking with a potential coach, you can simply ask them about their history outright - “Have you built a successful organization before?” If there is any hesitancy in their answer at all, you should go find a new prospective coach.

Second, you want to choose a coach that has a working knowledge of current marketing tools and strategies. Many network marketing coaches focus solely on motivation and mindset. Motivation is a big component of success, but without a current and up-to-date arsenal of good marketing methods that extend well beyond a distributors warm market, then motivation won’t get you very far.

To illustrate: you can take the most motivated car mechanic in the world, and them a fork and a butter knife, and ask them to change the oil in your car. Will they be able to it? Probably not, as they just don’t have the right tools for the job. Even if they could change the oil, it will take 10 times as long as it needs to simply because they don’t have the right tools for the job.

Third, you want to make sure the potential coach knows what they are doing with your specific campaign. They need to understand your goals and your situation. They do NOT actually need to understand everything about your company or compensation plan, but they need to be able to provide you with some real-world scenarios of how they could help you in structuring a long-term successful campaign.

Fourth, they need to be able to cover all the bases of growing a business. You don’t want a one-dimensional coach that only knows how to prospect, or only knows how to generate leads. A network marketing coach should have a well-rounded, comprehensive approach to building an organization. The skill-sets you should consider are:

  • Prospecting
  • Closing
  • Presenting
  • Team building / retention
  • Time management
  • Driving traffic online
  • Driving traffic offline
  • Leveraging social networking
  • Copywriting
  • Financial management
  • Entrepreneurship / business management

Choosing a network marketing coach should be a fun, educational process. If you keep these considerations in mind, a coach can help you achieve much higher levels of success much faster than a beginner could generate on their own through simple trial and error.

About the Author

Joshua Fuson is a professional marketer, and has participated in the generation of over $14 million dollars in the direct-marketing industry in the past 4 years alone. To find out more about Josh, see The Ultimate <a href=”http://www.add700reps.com/”>Network Marketing Success Guide</a>.

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Canada Mlm

February 19th, 2003


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ACN CANADA

ACN Inc is private company, founded in 1992, based in Concord, North Carolina, United States, that retail telecommunication services in MLM (multi level marketing).

It started in 1993 under the name of American Communications Network, later altered it to ACN. It is also present in Canada, Europe markets (Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, and United Kingdom), New Zealand and Australia.

ACN world headquarters is located in Concord, North Carolina, before 2008 it was in Farmington Hills, Michigan. ACN is a member of the Direct Selling Associations and an qualified member of the BBB.

Is ACN a pyramid Scam?
In my outlook ACN is not pyramid Scam. First issue is that ACN is a MLM. Many people think that all MLMs are scams. It is not true, MLMs are legally operating businesses. BUT, some people in MLMs may act dishonest and with no morality at all - they will lie to you in your face, suggest fast riches, and suck you into some schemes for making money of you. This is why legal Mlm Systems have bad reputations.

What is pyramid scheme?
What is pyramid scheme (snow ball scheme, chain scheme)? It is a scheme in which people pay fee to join, and then earn money from fees of those who have joined. Moreover, there is no selling of real products in the structure, sometimes no product at all, sometimes some ‘fake’ products (like 4 motivating books for $1000 etc).

Why ACN is not a pyramid?
It sells real goods (phone services, video phone, Internet access and more).

What it takes to get started in ACN?
Many ACN reps will enroll anyone into the business. Anyone willing to pay $499 is accepted and makes the rep profit. This is one reason why the drop out rate may be estimated to be more than 50% yearly, some people assume that it is 98%.

Can money be made in ACN?
What is the typical income of ACN rep? That is a hard question. Some reps just join and do almost nothing, so their income is zero (and they have big expenses). Some work hard, use gimmicks and recruit lot of new people and earn substantial income.

Why is it tough to estimate income?
Income rules changes. The percentage of phone bills earned by reps changes. The number of customers you must have to earn bonuses from new reps changes.

Do the math!
The income has a few sources: phone/internet bills some other services and new reps.
First source is small Telecom. The market is very competitive (many different providers) and the percentage of revenue is small (less than 2% usually). How many customers must you have to earn $100 monthly, if you get 1% or 2% of their phone bills? Do the math. If you have 40 customers, with 30$ monthly bill each, that sums up to $1200 in bills. 2% of it would be $24. Monthly.

Some may say - but there is also income form downline, from levels below, up to the 7th level. Well, theoretically it is. In practice, sometimes it is not. It is no easy to build structure 7 levels deep and maintain it, especially when drop out rate is high. This income is low but residual (if you keep the downline and not let it vanish due to drop out rate)

Second source is big. It’s your downline. This income is high but not residual.
There are also some Customer Acquisition Bonuses (CABs) - if you are on the level of “Executive Team Trainer or higher” - so you need to rise in the organization first.

To sum up - high recruiting bonuses, small residuals income. The income thus depends on how many reps you recruit.
Expenses: about $499 (may change in time and be different in different countries) fee to join. Annual renewal fee (about $100-$150). Monthly fees - a few dollars. All is about $230 yearly ($499 more in first year). How many customers will you need to break even?

Donald Trump
Donald Trump, well known businessman, real estate investor, endorses ACN. ACN was featured on an episode of The Celebrity Apprentice on NBC.
“I’ve come to know Greg, Robert, Tony and Mike, the Co-Founders of ACN, very well. They have built a terrific company and their new ACN Video Phone is amazing. I simply can’t imagine anyone using this video phone and not loving it. I can’t wait to see how our Celebrity Apprentice Teams launch it to the world!”
Stated Donald J. Trump. Donald Trump endorsed ACN in other ways too, have spoken at ACN International trainings, and praised the founders, business model and video phone.

Now,Mr.Trump Started his own Mlm Company. The Trump Network. A health and wellness company?

Is ACN a pyramid Scam?
No BUT…What is Being Left Out of the ACN Presentations… In my 6 years of being in the Mlm Industry, what has and continues to be left out of every presentation is the importance of understanding how you are going to MARKET YOU. When joining ACN you are not simply joining a company, you are becoming a business owner and that requires a completely different mindset!

You have to understand how it is that you are going to set YOURSELF apart as a leader in ACN and market YOU. See, I’ve found that it really doesn’t matter which company you join or for that matter what their product or service is…it is really about you becoming a true business owner. Understanding how to market, manage people, create cash flow and bring in new distributors on a daily basis is the life blood of being in the MLM industry.

One of the greatest ways that I found to learn how to market online using all of these mediums was to learn from those who’d already done it. If you’re new or old to the Network Marketing Game this is a great way for you to be able to get started.
The system I use, created by someone who has made millions in this industry, is truly amazing and you can try it out for ONLY $1…it’s really a no brainer. Try it for 14 days and you’ll be amazed at all the value that’s here

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Mlm Trump Network

February 15th, 2003

Trump Network Mlm Question?

Hi Everyone.
Trying to get some info on the Trump Network.
I have a pretty good understanding about MLM’s and understand the pitfalls.
My question is are people having a success with it?
How are the products selling? What are you doing to generate leads?
It seems the products are a bit overpriced even though they seem to be good quality.
What is the key to be successful in an MLM.
Thank you in advance for your comments.
mycomeup,
what exactly did that tell me?
Please don’t post useless links.
Thanks Ingrid, I would like to know more about your experiences, what is the best way to message you?

People are having and have been having success with it, since the Trump Network –previously Ideal Health – has been around for twelve years. The products include highly-advanced, scientifically-proven health and wellness products, including customized testing and metabolic analysis, effective weight-management solutions and vitamin and mineral supplements. The most popular product is a personalized multivitamin (Custom Essentials®), designed for an individual’s specific needs and nutritional deficiency. The Trump Network will send you leads once you each a certain level. Also, my team teaches new marketers how to generate leads on there own with many free tools. The main keys to success are believing in your own potential, treating the MLM as a business not a hobby, and most importantly finding a good system/TEAM to help you succeed.

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Mannatech Scam Mlm

February 13th, 2003


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Mannatech-Scam Or Legit opportunity? Something To Help You With Your decision

Mannatech Inc. founded in 1994 by one Samuel L. Caster is an Mlm Company that appears to be doing very well. Everything looks great, the company seems like it’s climbing high, they’re even traded on NASDAQ(great for company credibilty by the way) but….the age old question once again touches your lip’s: what’s in it for me?

A Bit Of Company Information

Mannatech markets various products that basically focus on nutrition and optimal health. All their products are wrapped around their revolutionary technology which they call Glyco nutrients which are derived from plant sugars.

Mannatech was founded in 1994 by Samuel L. Caster, the company is at the time of writing headquartered in Coppell, Texas in the United States.

Mannatech is an MLM Company that has risen high and is leaps and bounds ahead of many if not all in the Health and Wellness industry. Traded on the NASDAQ Exchange, Multi-national firm that operates in countries like United States oF America, United Kingdom, South Africa, Korea, Singapore etc.and being featured in Forbes magazine. They even formed their own Non-profit organization-MannaRelief.

MannaRelief is an organization formed by Mannatech in 1999 and they’ve since provided their products to over 80,000 orphans around the world.

Mannatech has pulled out all the stops in gaining credibility, what this means is that they have staying power and have a broad appeal.

Pros And Cons


Mannatech has, as mentioned above immunized itself from competition and that get’s a big plus from me.

Mannatech is able to do this because it doesn’t suffer from a negative price pressure in the marketplace like a technology based product would.

Negative price pressure’s? well, let’s look a little deeper because this is VERY IMPORTANT. Let’s say you you create a technology product a new phone we’ll call SuperCommBaby that allows you to communicate all over the universe.

Things are going great and you have a 75% profit margin, you then go and start an MLM and your distributor’s start making 7-figure commission checks.

The success stories don’t keep coming though, because China has just entered the market and is offering exactly what you’re offering but at a lower price and they’re willing to settle for a 5% profit margin.

Then your company put’s the price down on the SuperCommBaby so they could compete in the market and this kills the size of your commission checks and chops  your income down by 70%.

Now for the cons. Mannatech is huge right now no doubt but can it be sustained? The health and wellness industry has grown on a massive scale very quickly and with all things what goes up must come down.

Every time there is a boom in the industry there is also a bust, when a market has grown companies have been started to simply make money and when the market was down these companies disappeared from the face of the planet.

This in my opinion is the only thorn in the side of Mannatech, will they go down as the crass opportunity seeking company when the industry starts to wind down(and it will wind down) or will it stand with the 20% of real professionals in the market?

It’s too soon to tell

However…

If you do want to make money in Mannatech, understand that your ability to make money and create a successful organization usually has nothing to do with which company you join. Making money in the Mlm Industry is all about the person you are as much as what company you join.

Many distributor’s join great MLM’s and recieve weak checks that can be surpassed working part time on the national minimum wage simply because they don’t know how to market and stand out as a leader.

About the Author

Want to make money with Mannatech? Then learn how to make friends and influence people and generate an endless flow of prospects to you using attraction marketing. That way it won’t matter if your company goes bust or your distributor’s start earning peanut checks. Anyone who understands attraction marketing knows how to create a large organization and loyal followers in any company of choice. http://PlatinumLeadsSystem.com

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Mlm World Ranking

February 13th, 2003

Build a Successful Online Mlm Business

 

Two basic ways exist that you can build your Network Marketing Business today. One is to concentrate in offline methods to generate leads and reach your prospects, and the second to use the power of Internet to get in front of the eyes of people that long to start a home business and are already searching for info about it.

 

Both ways have their advantages and disadvantages and any distributor can become successful regardless of the method he chooses to follow. Of course, the majority of people show a preference and an inclination for online prospecting due to the fact that most lack the necessary social skills, and the thought that can run the whole show behind a computer screen certainly allures them.

 

Don’t discount the power of web prospecting because people come to it trying to avoid the offline person to person contact. The net can give you great opportunities to get your message to millions of surfers from all over the world, and build faster a huge organization. This medium has a great reach and this is what makes it powerful for advertising, plus the fact that you can do it on a limited budget and always track your result so you know what works or not.

 

To begin with, the foremost important thing you need in order to work online is education. It is a technical field and in order to make use of all of the great tools that the Internet is offering, you need first to know how do it. There are certain skills you need to develop before you start seeing any substantial results. No need to afraid as such things are relatively easy to learn, they are not quantum physics for sure, but they still take their time and you should devote the necessary time to them.

 

Second, without your own website you can’t go far. And when I say your own, I really mean your own with its own domain name and hosted on a paid server. Don’t waste your time with free webhosting, at least not for your main site, and certainly don’t expect with the replicated webpage that the company gave you to go far. Every other company distributor has the same one and you would face great difficulties to increase its search engine ranking or drive PPC(pay per click) traffic. Needles to say that your prospect won’t take you much seriously in a case like this. Of course, there are tactics in which such free tools may be used for traffic generation, but they all revolve around your main site that would be the end receiver.

 

Third, you need an autoresponder service. Its function is to follow up through email with those prospects that inquired more information from you about the opportunity. You should make it your number one rule to capture your visitors email address when they visit you website. If not, there’s a good chance that they would never come back. Try to give them something in exchange to incentivize them to subscribe, and then let your autoresponder to do its business by sending them the messages you uploaded in order to convert them to customers or distributors.

 

Fourth, traffic is the “manna” for every marketer. Without it everything else is useless and a waste of money. What’s the point to have the most beautiful website and the greatest opportunity if no one else can find you? Of course, due to its importance, there’s fierce competition for the eyes and the browsers of the surfers. You need to learn seo(search engine optimization) in order to improve your sites rankings. PPC which refers to advertising to search engine listings like that of Google, Yahoo or MSN and finally ads on other websites whether in text or by using banners.

 

Last, but not least, your copywriting skills would determine how well your prospects would convert to distributors or customers. There is a whole science there on how to do it effectively and volumes can be written about it. Knowledge and practice can lead you at becoming better at every step you take in it and greatly improve the results you get.

 

For the technophobic of you that read this, I know that all things might have scared you and left you wondering where do you start and how you are supposed to learn all these at the same time you are building your MLM business. Well, the answer in that case is, what you can’t do, you can always outsource it. Hire someone who has that knowledge to do it for you while you are concentrating in the management and leadership of your organization.

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Multi Level Marketing Tracking Software

February 13th, 2003


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Web Tracks

Affiliate tracking software solutions make recordkeeping easy.

Affiliate programs are a great way to increase traffic to and sales for your web site. There are several affiliate tracking software solutions that keep track of sales, clicks, and commissions.

Affiliate tracking software solutions come in a variety of packages. Software for a click-based program allows you to pay affiliates a set rate for each visitor to your web site. Look for click-based software with helpful features including click-through tracking, link code generation (keep banners current and linked correctly), referral tracking, and detailed stats.

Other software lets you set up a commission or flat rate pay for each potential customer sent via your affiliate member. You can also customize the commission schedule for individual affiliates. Commission-based programs can be more economical because you only pay affiliates when their referrals generate sales.

You don’t have to choose between click-based or commission affiliate tracking software. Programs are available that let you use both pay arrangements.

Many affiliate tracking software solutions now have private affiliate network capability. This feature is helpful for those with multiple web sites. It lets you run one affiliate program for all your web sites on your own private network as opposed to setting up affiliate programs for each site.

How does it work?

The basic premise of affiliate programs is the same for all affiliate tracking software solutions. An affiliate joins your program by logging into the member area on your web page. There the affiliate can get the tools needed for linking to your site such as banner codes, text links, and product images.

When a visitor clicks from the affiliate’s web page to yours, the tracking software places a cookie on the visitor’s computer to track him as he browses your web site. If the visitor buys a product or service from your web site, the tracking software notes the affiliate responsible for said visitor and records the sale in a database. The Administrator and the affiliate are both notified of the sale via email.

Affiliate software makes its easy to monitor the success of your affiliate programs by tracking the number of times banners or links are displayed, number of visitors who linked to your web site, and how many of these visits resulted in a sale. In addition, the software keeps account of commissions earned by and payouts to affiliates.

Helpful Features

Software packages are easy to install and manage. However, software companies will gladly lend a hand to technically challenged web entrepreneurs. Look for affiliate software tracking solutions that provide reliable tech support and don’t charge setup fees or monthly charges. The software should be easy to customize for your specific needs.

Other helpful features include:

Unlimited affiliates categories

Automated fraud protection

Performance rewards for your best affiliates

Lifetime upgrades

Multi-level Marketing (affiliate program promotes itself and your web site).

Sources

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Multilevel Marketing Company In India

February 13th, 2003

Zrii-More Than Just a Little Green Fruit

The business was set up by a known businessman named Bill Farley. Zrii is a excellent nutritive product that could improve your well being to a considerably.

The Amalaki Fruit is from northern India. It could be found growing on the base with the Himalayan Mountains.Usually a small green fruit no larger than a golfball. Zrii Amalaki is used for cellular rejuvenation. You can find various nutritive benefits to taking Amalaki. Zrii’s goods stand alone inside the industry; it can be the only company that combines the ancient wisdom of Ayurveda with the latest scientific investigation to develop groundbreaking, life-altering formulations. These solutions work to transform the whole body by converting unhealthy tissues into the foundational building blocks for vibrant health.

The Zrii compensation program is a uni-level program, so it doesn’t actually count who hired who. Many Multi-level Marketing companies assure their ground floor possibilities,you just need to stay with them and you will be able to make some serious income. About 96% of other multilevel promoters, said it difficult to induct any people into this program. It appears that only the promoters alone have been the ones who have accepted the genuine benefits of this programme, and made any actual money in it.

Though as with many programs you will fail at this one too if you do not have the right market training. Take the time to learn to market to succeed. Any and all products no matter how great, and great for you have to be marketed effectively. Learning proper marketing can save you a lot of time and money and heartache.

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Norbert Orlewicz is a top Internet marketer and creator of the industry’s leading marketing training community. You can get his free ($97 value) Sponsoring Mastery Formula and learn to sponsor 25+ new reps each month over at his blog http://SponsoringMastery.com

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Mlm Taxes

February 9th, 2003


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Shame on reliance FOR CHEATING THE GOVERNMENT and paying no tax?

reliance supports an unautherised MLM(multi level marketting) “themobitel.com” which does not pay any tax to govt. no PAN card for associates no legals and destroys young generation of INDIA save INDIA from themobitel.com

They having big connection from politician and bureaucrats even judges too those big racket behind them , we normal Citizen can do only one thing just cry for our country

You are Overpaying on Your Taxes with MLM




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Top 10 Network Marketing Businesses

February 9th, 2003


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does anyone to be Part of the Ultra International Network Marketing?

I have just found this Great program and I am one of the first in. I have two great recruiters on my first level. People this is crazy If yore doing business with network marketing you have to check this out. The company will pre-lunch on November 1,2008, And we are on the top now, so all the people who will sign up now will be under me and you because its a forced matrix. And i guarantee you, that you will be making over $10,000 per month, Now they only pay the bonus, so for more info visit the website
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also they have a 7-days Free Trail.

This is Not a pyramid you dont have to sponsor anyone, Just buy the product, Adn you will have thousands of people under you. So good luck, for more info ask.

I would want to be a part..

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Multi Level Marketing Websites

February 8th, 2003


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Pseudo Technology : the Multi-level Marketing Specialists

Most Mlm Software companies go out of business. Every year they disappear and what will happen to your company when they do? Make sure you choose a highly experienced staff with a proven MLM software system. Otherwise, your company will most likely not survive.Multi-level marketing (MLM), also known as Network Marketing, is a business-distribution model that allows a parent company to market its products directly to consumers by means of relationship referrals and direct selling.

Independent, unsalaried salespeople of multi-level marketing, referred to as distributors (or associates, independent business owners, franchise owners, sales consultants, consultants, independent agents, etc.), represent the parent company and are awarded a commission based upon the volume of product sold through each of their independent businesses (organizations).Independent distributors develop their organizations by either building an active customer base, who buy direct from the parent company, or by recruiting a downline of independent distributors who also build a customer base, thereby expanding the overall organization. Additionally, distributors can also earn a profit by retailing products they purchased from the parent company at wholesale price.

Distributors earn a commission based on the sales efforts of their organization, which includes their independent sale efforts as well as the leveraged sales efforts of their downline. This arrangement is similar to franchise arrangements where royalties are paid from the sales of individual franchise operations to the franchisor as well as to an area or region manager. Commissions are paid to multi-level marketing distributors according to the company?s compensation plan. There can be multiple levels of people receiving royalties from one person’s sales.

Multilevel Marketing Plans, also known as “network” or “matrix” marketing, are a way of selling goods or services through distributors. These plans typically promise that if you sign up as a distributor, you will receive commissions for both your sales of the plan’s goods or services and those of other people you recruit to join the distributors. Multilevel marketing plans usually promise to pay commissions through two or more levels of recruits, known as the distributor’s “downline.”

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Home based business/ Mlm Statistics?

Anyone know the general statistics for the amount of people who are joining a home based business or mlm… per day, per month? I did some Google searches but I was finding any numbers or percentages. I’m looking for recent stats, like 2009, 2010…
* most sites list stats for SMALL businesses, but that generally means offline. I”m looking for HOME BASED or online/ mlm specifics!!

Thanks

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Even if you do find any numbers they are just guesses. There are so many home based businesses and Mlm Companies out there that are flying under the radar. The guesses you’ll find will vary so much that they are pretty much useless. The Direct Selling Association www.dsa.org might be able to give you the most accurate stats on MLM, but even then it’s just an educated guess because most MLM companies aren’t members.

The SBA sba.gov may be able to provide some stats too, but once again it’s just an educated guess.

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